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Old Oct 20, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30   #1
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Why have Anet once again (pseudo-)nerfed a perfectly good ranger skill. I was thinking before GW:EN was released, "Hmm? Dungeons with especially difficult bosses? I can see everyone wanting a broad head arrow ranger in the harder missions!" But no. You can't physically daze dungeon bosses (tried this on Murakai and Fragment of Antiquities, do correct me if I'm wrong). I know I can find teams with hundreds of different builds, but I hate the way that Anet continually prunes us so that we have to play certain things to succeed.
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Old Oct 20, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46   #2
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Was this recently? Cause I dazed the Fragment and Muraki a week ago, but haven't gone to kill Muraki in a couple of days.
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Old Oct 20, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49   #3
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Yeah, i dazed Murakai 2 weeks ago when I fought her, if I remember correctly. With the same skill. But those two were today and yesterday.
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Old Oct 20, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58   #4
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Murakai can be dazed; however it has 1/2 condition duration so with 16 Marks and a Silencing String, daze will only last 14 seconds. T

Fragment of Antiguities is daze-able... no 1/2 conditions either.
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Old Oct 20, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #5
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Huh. Well, if that is the case, I must have a bug, as Broad Head Arrow didn't even give them the condition sign (I know about the 1/2 condition).
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Old Oct 21, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16   #6
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I daze Murakai regularly, yet I don't use BHA. I use this build:

[wiki]Sloth Hunter's Shot[/wiki][skill]Concussion Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Prepared Shot[/skill][skill]Throw Dirt[/skill][skill]Read the Wind[/skill][wiki]Ebon Battle Standard of Courage[/wiki][wiki]Light of Deldrimor[/wiki]

Light of Deldrimor is very optional.

Daze her all the time, without fail.
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Old Oct 22, 2007, 05:00 PM // 17:00   #7
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My Jin always dazes Murakai.
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Old Oct 22, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30   #8
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The "bug" you might be getting is if you use BHA as your first attack, Murakai sometimes moves before being hit by it which allows her to dodge it. So try doing one normal attack then use BHA.
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Old Oct 22, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #9
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End dungeon bosses are immune to blind and daze in hard mode.
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Old Oct 22, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42   #10
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End dungeon bosses are immune to blind and daze in hard mode.
Oh wow, hardcore.
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Old Oct 23, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49   #11
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Now i want to see who can beat Magmus... Omg, has anyone beat Frostmaw?

I usually Pin Down Murakai while Jin hits BHA and my Olias minions bodyblock her... Perhaps this has something to do with it. :P
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Old Oct 24, 2007, 08:04 AM // 08:04   #12
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End dungeon bosses are immune to blind and daze in hard mode.
Hey Ensign, I tried to track down some more information about this ... I couldn't find anything yet. Was that a secret update while they implemented Hard Mode for EotN?

I assume the information comes from testing, is there any other source you know?

Thanks a bunch for the info, very intresting,
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Old Oct 24, 2007, 11:00 PM // 23:00   #13
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End dungeon bosses are immune to blind and daze in hard mode.
What? That would be like breaking the game on purpose! You can't make a skill and tell me that in HM I can't daze or blind bosses...

I'm not saying you're wrong or right, I'm just saying that would be a horribly wrong curve to throw at players. I would never be in HM if they did that. Cheating because you're the programmer doesn't make it fair. It's still cheating!
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Old Oct 24, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06   #14
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What? That would be like breaking the game on purpose! You can't make a skill and tell me that in HM I can't daze or blind bosses...

I'm not saying you're wrong or right, I'm just saying that would be a horribly wrong curve to throw at players. I would never be in HM if they did that. Cheating because you're the programmer doesn't make it fair. It's still cheating!
Oh noes! Hard mode is hard!

... wait... something's not adding up...
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Old Nov 03, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #15
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WTF are you talking about???
I did Shards of Orr in HM a couple days ago and BHA from Zho worked just fine on both Fendi Nin and Soul of Fendi Nin.
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